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Re: New Home page up

19 May 2014, 15:37

I imagine you're referring to http://ahkscript.org/usertools/Jethrow/iWebBrowser2%20Learner.zip ?
Well, a "Download link" could be added beside the "more info" link...
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Re: New Home page up

19 May 2014, 20:40

I think the following text should be removed from the home page because it is, in my opinion, irrelevant and makes ahkscript.org look like a fan site for AHK, and it very clearly is not (see here (bottom of page) for what prompted me to post this):
Welcome to AHKScript.org, a new community founded by a number of enthusiasts to promote the use of AutoHotkey.
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Re: New Home page up

19 May 2014, 21:02

hmm... i see.. Thanks for reporting this. Should I respond with this?

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It is true that Autohotkey.COM has the "history" but, almost Everyone has switched to ahkscript.org
including Chris [The Creator] (I don't want to drag him in to this), Lexikos, fincs, HotketIt etc. These people were vital to the creation of autohotkey.
Even the [superadmin] of autohotkey.com has discussed a "transfer"... (but, his integrity is questionable).
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Re: New Home page up

19 May 2014, 21:26

I think not. Rather just respond that plans are in motion to transfer ownership of autohotkey.com to the newly created AutoHotkey Foundation LLC and that at some point in time the two websites will be officially consolidated under the domain autohotkey.com. It's also worth mentioning that nobody owns the name AutoHotkey (to my knowledge).
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Re: New Home page up

19 May 2014, 23:10

part of the plans are to still re unify eventually at least in domain to autohotkey.com. for this reason the text that exists actually is relavant until we become sure which direction we will take
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Re: New Home page up

19 May 2014, 23:13

Makes sense.
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Re: New Home page up

20 May 2014, 11:47

Then in the name of transparency, can we get this in writing (a stickied, locked post in the AutoHotkey Foundation forum that shows on all website pages) explaining exactly what is happening, the expected timeframe of completion, and have it verified by key members of the community, such as yourself, lexikos, and if possible, Polyethene? Also do this on the other forum if possible.

For most of us, we're completely in the dark about what is happening apart from a few vague comments buried in random threads throughout the forum. Most of the talks have been private. We appreciate what you've done so far, but please let everybody know what's happening in a way that everybody can see and has some semblance of officiality (if that's a word).

Thanks.
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Re: New Home page up

20 May 2014, 12:11

Most of it to date is found in these 2 threads

The First Step

Basics as to why AHKSCRIPT exists

Many of the conversation points are private.

you can also read starting here

http://www.autohotkey.com/board/topic/52871-%C2%AB-whats-on-your-mind-%C2%BB/page-201?p=650174#entry650174

The nickel version is many of us were unhappy with forum software changes forum and site administration policies and when these oppinions were voiced entire threads were deleted as well as moderators getting stripped of priviledges. we came here, contacted chris proposed the idea of an LLC to own Autohotkey.com who agreed with the idea so long as he wouldnt be required to do anything but had some sort of emergency power if ti goes awry again. we have been applying various means of descreet preasute on Poly for some time now. he has began discussing a hand over and promised one. but the battle is on going.

First and formost this must not turn into a public bashing. we should not spam threads in either site promoting one or the other. a public battle only hurts everyone. In the end no descision has been made final about the end state of autohotkey.com should Poly comply. it is desired to convert the current forum to PHPBB3 and lock it as a permanent archive and point autohotkey.com to this forum. but that is a premature discussion. First we have to get the domain and content ownership transfered to the AutoHotkey Foundation LLC. and then we can publicly discuss a final state. Untill such an ownersip transfer occurs things are they are is really the the only state of things that there are. we will remain 2 domains servicing the same users.

Obviously the move to put autohotkey.com pointing to the older version of AHK as a download is distressing. If for no other reason it draws public attention to the discord and breaks advances in countless threads on that domain. It serves only to damage the reputation of the community
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Re: New Home page up

20 May 2014, 21:33

How about an official page about the AutoHotkey Foundation? Someone could provide me with text and pointers, and ill make the page. Otherwise, ill just use some stuff written by tank, here and there.
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Re: New Home page up

21 May 2014, 00:58

@joedf: That's sort of what I was looking for. Please go ahead and do it.
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Re: New Home page up

21 May 2014, 07:41

Since you volunteered yourself :)
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Re: New Home page up

21 May 2014, 07:51

tank wrote:Since you volunteered yourself :)

:lol:
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Re: New Home page up

21 May 2014, 09:14

Haha, alright. I'll try to do this tonight. :)
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Re: New Home page up

21 May 2014, 09:37

tank wrote:Since you volunteered yourself :)

:lol: Good luck joedf
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Re: New Home page up

21 May 2014, 21:40

Haha thanks :P
Well, I wont be able to post this tonight... Ill concentrate on actually writing and organizing the information, links, quotes, etc.
It will be posted soon. I have made a quick extract of the information that I have gathered, there's actually more because some posts link to others... Once Im done, i will surely want absolutely EVERYBODY's OPEN opinion, since this is an important document.
See this attached file for the "extract" :
extract.zip
AutoHotkey Foundation : Extract
(5.44 KiB) Downloaded 70 times

(Writing the first actual "official" AutoHotkey Foundation description document, ;) )

Regards

PS with this post :
Author: tank
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:59 am

It is done
Order Confirmation
Order Confirmation Number: 34833087
Grand Total: $196.67

Could i amuse that the post-day : April 23 is the "official" creation date of the foundation?
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Re: New Home page up

26 May 2014, 00:15

It is done. Took a while, but here it is. Don't be shy, input is practically obligatory. :)

Web Format : http://ahkscript.org/foundation
PDF Format : http://ahkscript.org/foundation/The_Aut ... dation.pdf

Cheers,
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Re: New Home page up

26 May 2014, 00:45

joedf wrote:It is done. Took a while, but here it is. Don't be shy, input is practically obligatory. :)

Web Format : http://ahkscript.org/foundation
PDF Format : http://ahkscript.org/foundation/The_Aut ... dation.pdf

Cheers,

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Re: New Home page up

26 May 2014, 06:15

Is this correct?
Our Mission

The tenants of this product will not change. We have and will continue to filter obvious wrongdoing. That said we can not be responsible for every misuse. We should be financially liable for any misdeed. An LLC also serves to separate person from entity. Consider the following example: violating a license is not a criminal matter but there could be legal concerns if we appeared to support it.


I'm hoping we should NOT be responsible. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.
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Re: New Home page up

26 May 2014, 10:18

1) Perhaps these last few posts should be split from this "homepage" thread ?

2) I suggest this "Foundation" document to be as neutral as possible and therefore move the History to the bottom of the page also make it a bit shorter - no need to rehash all the drama in such a document in my opinion - there are enough threads on the two fora that can provide enough information for those interested and these links could remain.

Suggested text

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I'm sure it could be improved further.
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Re: New Home page up

26 May 2014, 11:17

History should be separate but linked "should not" is better but I think are not responsible for misdeeds of people or organizations uding this product..

Or some like that says AutoHotkey Foundation LLC is not responsible for the use of this product by other persond or entities
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